THERE SHOULD BE NO WAY POSSIBLE FOR ANYONE WITH CRIMINAL INTENT TO POSSESS A FIREARM...OR A KNIFE, OR A STICK, OR A STONE, OR POISON, OR BE ALLOWED TO MAKE FIRE TO BURN SOMEONE.
NOW, HOW CAN WE DETERMINE WHEN SOMEONE IS A CRIMINAL, OR WILL BECOME ONE, AND THEN KEEP THEM FROM BUYING GUNS OR WHATEVER THEY WANT FROM YET ANOTHER CRIMINAL ELEMENT...THOSE WHO ILLEGALLY SELL WEAPONS?
BUT THEY MIGHT STEAL FROM LEGAL SELLERS, OR EVEN SOME LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, OR THE MILITARY SOMEHOW.
WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE AWAY THOSE GUNS, TOO.
BUT THEN, CRIMINALS CAN BUY WEAPONS FROM ACROSS THE BORDER.
THEY CAN GET THEM FROM OTHER CRIMINALS IN OTHER COUNTRIES OVERSEAS.
SOME ARE EVEN SKILLED IN MAKING FIREARMS THEMSELVES.
EVEN IF WE DO BAN GUNS, MAYBE THEN ONLY CRIMINALS WILL KNOW WHERE AND HOW TO GET GUNS AND THEN <GASP!> THEY'D ALL BE ARMED AND WE WOULD BE EASY TARGETS.
WHAT CAN WE DO?
"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.
Can it be supposed that those who have the courage to violate the most sacred laws of humanity...will respect the less important and arbitrary ones...?
Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants, they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
— Thomas Jefferson
WITH THE "LIVE" SHOOTING OF THE TWO TELEVISION JOURNALISTS IN VIRGINIA, HILLARY CLINTON CLINCHED HER JAW AND PROMISED GUN CONTROL.
WILL HILLARY ALSO CONTROL MURDERS?
THERE HAVE BEEN LAWS AGAINST MURDER FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS.
THERE HAS LONG BEEN A "BAN", WE COULD SAY, ON MURDER.
A BAN ON GUNS WILL HELP CRIMINALS ENORMOUSLY!
I IMAGINE EVERY CRIMINAL ON EARTH IS HOPING AND PRAYING AND LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DAY WHEN ALL THE REST OF US HAVE NO GUNS.
ONCE ALL GUNS ARE CONFISCATED, THEY CAN WALK IN ANYWHERE WITH THEIR GUNS AND ALL HELL WILL BREAK LOOSE.
THERE ARE ENOUGH "ILLEGAL", UNREGISTERED GUNS IN AMERICA TO SUPPLY THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT FOR CENTURIES.
WE OFTEN FORGET THAT GUNS DON'T FIRE THEMSELVES.
FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO READ HERE OFTEN, YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING SEVERAL BIG, BAD "ASSAULT WEAPONS" FOR YEARS NOW, CAMERAS ON THEM 24/7, AND NOT ONE HAS FIRED ITSELF.
BUT YOU WHO ARE NEW TO THE TEA ROOM CAN GO WATCH THEM FOR YOURSELVES <RIGHT HERE>.
DO YOU NOT GET THE POINT?
IT TAKES A HUMAN PULLING THE TRIGGER FOR ANY GUN TO FIRE.
LET'S BAN HUMANS!
WELL, HUMANS ARE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US CAPABLE OF MURDER AND CARNAGE!
TAKE AWAY GUNS, A DEDICATED CRIMINAL, A HUMAN INTENT ON MURDER, WILL USE A KNIFE, A BOMB, A STICK, A ROCK, ANYTHING!
BUT THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT HAS AVAILABLE TO THEM AN ENTIRE ARSENAL OF WEAPONS, GUNS GALORE DOWN ALMOST ANY ALLEY, IN EVERY TOWN, BUT IT'S CRIMINALS SELLING THOSE TO OTHER CRIMINALS, SO YOU CAN BET, IF/WHEN HILLARY OR HER ILK BAN GUNS, YOU, AS A LAW-ABIDING CITIZEN, AS A TARGET OF CRIMINALS, DAMNED SURE WON'T BE ABLE TO BUY A GUN FROM ANYONE WHO SEES YOU AS A WEAKENED TARGET, AN EASY MARK.
I had an uncle who had been specially trained by our dear government back during the Korean conflict, who, as many veterans did when the wars seemed to have ended, found employment in law enforcement with the highway patrol of a western state.
He had, how can I say it, "MANY SKILLS".
One year, on his trek 'back home' to visit his parents in the south, he decided to see how many of certain weapons he could find and procure on his 2,400 miles journey.
He was curious to see if every random town he chose had someone who would sell him an automatic weapon, one that required maybe "special licensing" to sell.
[See Federal Firearms Act, 1938]
Honestly, I have to say, my uncle was just trying to make a point to his coworkers back west: he could buy such a gun in any sweet little Hometown, America.
There are still photos of the result of his weapons procurement trip.
He stopped in 21 small towns on his leisurely trip east, gathered 39 weapons, including 22 beautiful Thompson submachine guns, two of which had consecutive serial numbers.
He only stopped in 9 towns going back west, gathered an additional 14.
He didn't pay for a single one of them.
After all, he WAS a law enforcement officer, and, before that, someone highly trained to TAKE weapons away from others.
What were the sellers going to do faced with such an armed man in some secluded spot?
Call a cop?
Please understand, he made it a point to stop in JUST those postcard type towns, which, to most of us, would never look like anyone there was selling such firepower illegally.
He made his point to his fellow officers.
Neither the National nor Federal Firearms Act was worth the paper they are written on.
Anywhere you chose to look, you would find a way to get any weapon you wanted.
No one asked him for ID, no one asked him if he was a convicted felon, no one gave two cents who he was.
He flashed a few big bills, they agreed to the sale and got ripped off by a "crazy" man, who always dropped by for a quick visit with local LEOs to show them what he'd found.
Uncle was a different breed, quite special.
Sadness at his going, peace to his ashes.
You can take that very true story as fact or ignore it, but who will argue that criminals can get a gun when no one else can?
GUN LAWS ARE NEVER GOING TO STOP CRIMINALS FROM HAVING GUNS, AND IT IS THE CRIMINALS WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT, RIGHT?
NO, I THINK OUR GOVERNMENT IS FAR MORE WORRIED ABOUT FACING MILLIONS OF ORDINARY, WELL-ARMED CITIZENS.
YOU SEE, THEY KNOW THAT THE DAY WILL COME WHEN WE WILL SEE THEM FOR WHAT THEY ARE AND FINALLY DECIDE TO "CLEAN HOUSE", GET RID OF THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT IN THEIR RANKS, MAYBE REPLAY 1776.
THEY JUST WON'T STOP THOSE LONG, DRAWN-OUT LITTLE UNDECLARED WARS ALL OVER THE GLOBE AND BRING ALL OUR TROOPS HOME BECAUSE, LIKE MY UNCLE, THOSE ARE WELL-TRAINED INDIVIDUALS WHO JUST MIGHT FEEL LIKE A LOT OF US AT HOME FEEL...WE NEED TO TAKE AMERICA BACK!
SO, THE PLAN IS TO COMPLETELY DISARM US.
BUT NOT THEMSELVES.
IF WE CAN'T DEFEND EITHER OURSELVES OR OUR NATION, SHOULD WE COME UNDER ATTACK, THE GOVERNMENT BECOMES "SAVIOR" TO SOME.
IT BECOMES OVERLORD TO OTHERS.
WHEN ONLY THEY AND THE CRIMINALS HAVE WEAPONS, WE WILL BE LIKE A FLOCK OF HELPLESS SHEEP WITH WOLVES CIRCLING IT.
WHEN IT'S CLEAR THAT EVERYONE HAS BEEN DISARMED, WE WILL SEE ORWELL'S 1984 BECOME ABSOLUTE REALITY...AND WE WILL SEE MUCH WORSE THAN THAT.
FROM MY POST,
"Criminals are killing people, not law-abiding gun owners,"
Newark, NJ, Mayor Cory Booker said on ABC's 'This Week' .
Newark, NJ, Mayor Cory Booker said on ABC's 'This Week' .
"I don't know if anybody here has seen somebody shot.
I have," Booker said.
"I don't know if anybody here has had to put their hand in somebody's chest and try to stop the bleeding so somebody doesn't die.
And the what frustrates me about this debate is it's a false debate.
It's a false debate...I'm not afraid of law-abiding citizens who buy a gun," he said.
"Buy the guns you want... Listen to me, the people dying in Chicago, the people dying in Newark are not being done with law-abiding gun owners," Booker continued.
"We do not need to go after the guns.
A law-abiding mentally stable American, that's not America's problem."
A law-abiding mentally stable American, that's not America's problem."
HAVE GUN BANS EVER WORKED?
WE'VE HAD A FEW SHOTS (PARDON THE PUN) AT BANNING WEAPONS.
NOTHING CHANGED AS FAR AS CRIMINALS OWNING GUNS...
NOT ONE EVER TURNED IN THEIR ILLEGAL WEAPONS!
CRIME ALWAYS WENT UP DURING ANY ATTEMPTED "GUN BAN".
MAYBE YOU SHOULD READ A FEW FACTS?
HERE ARE SOME OF THOSE.
IN MY POST "BAN ON MURDER", I TRIED TO REMIND US ALL OF HOW ANY OF OUR "WARS ON___" (FILL IN THE BLANK) HAVE TURNED OUT.
WE HAVE LOST ALL THOSE "WARS"!
In the United States, we have "declared war" on CRIME, on POVERTY, on DRUGS, on CANCER, on damn near everything at one time or another, but we haven't won a single one of those "wars"!
Let's think about that...
Crime/criminals were not scared-off by the war on crime, the poor are still poor and getting poorer by the minute, more poor join their ranks every month, drugs are actually a source of income for the U.S. Government, which is why our troops guard Afghan poppy fields today and why things like "Fast & Furious" happen.
THE U.S. TRADES IN ARMS, ILLEGALLY, ALL OVER THE WORLD!
REMEMBER THE IRAN/CONTRA DEALS, "FAST AND FURIOUS"?
THOSE WERE SMALL COMPARED TO WHAT WE REALLY DO!
WE (THE UNITED STATES) ARM THE WORST CRIMINALS ON THIS PLANET!
DO YOU SEE THE UTTER HYPOCRISY OF THOSE CALLING FOR "GUN CONTROL".
DO YOU SEE UNARMED MEN GUARDING THE PRESIDENT?
DO YOU SEE NO ONE WITH WEAPONS AT THE DOORS OF CONGRESS?
WHEN WE, THE LAW ABIDING, ARE THE UNARMED, WE ARE SIMPLY FAIR GAME...OPEN SEASON BEGINS ON THE AVERAGE AMERICAN CITIZEN WHEN WE ARE FORCED TO TURN IN OUR WEAPONS.
WE ARE THEN AT THE MERCY OF THE MERCILESS!
WHEN I WROTE "GUN CONTROL WILL NOT FIX IT" WE LEARNED:
"In Nov. 2010, new stats on death in America was published and reported by stpeteforpeace.org.
Their site linked study after study to the facts...there are worse killers out there than criminals with guns!
On average, there are 32 gun homicides each day in the U.S.
11,680 a year.
VERY FEW ARE KILLED WITH AUTOMATIC OR "ASSAULT STYLE" WEAPONS!
What could kill MORE people than guns?
~PRESCRIPTION PAIN PILLS kill more than 18,000 people a year, according to estimates by the Prescription Monitoring Program Center of Excellence at Brandeis University.
~Smoking related deaths: 443,000/year due to cigarette smoking and 49,400/year due to second-hand smoke.
~Obesity related deaths: 300,000/year.
~Deaths due to lack of health care: 101,000/year.
~An estimated 15,000 Medicare patients die EACH MONTH,of "adverse events" that happen in hospitals, says a government study" .
That's 180,000 a year!!!
"Reducing the incidence of adverse events in hospitals is a critical component of efforts to improve patient safety and quality care in the U.S.", the Inspector General wrote.
~ On average in 2009, 93 people were killed on the roadways of the U.S. each day.
That's 33,945 in a year.
ALL of the ABOVE kill more than gun crimes.
WHY DON'T WE BAN ALL THOSE?
IF STOPPING AMERICANS FROM BEING KILLED IS THE GOAL, THERE ARE THE REAL REASONS MOST AMERICANS DIE, SO BAN THOSE!
LET'S GET US SOME LAWS THAT STOP THAT!
See this amazing little chart to see how guns rank in the "killing of Americans".
WHAT KILLS AMERICANS?
Any person with criminal intent, one who is "emotionally unbalanced", one who may be called "criminally insane", or just plain old determined to kill others will ALWAYS find a way to accomplish that!
Before there were guns, before there were weapons of iron or steel, human beings were bashing one another's brains out with rocks!
Things are very different in Switzerland.
In 1978, Switzerland refused to ratify a Council of Europe Convention on Control of Firearms. Since then, Switzerland has been pressured by other European governments, which charge that it is a source for terrorist weapons.
As a result, in 1982 the central government proposed a law barring foreigners in Switzerland from buying guns they could not buy in their own countries and also requiring that Swiss citizens obtain a license to buy any gun, rather than just handguns.
Outraged Swiss gun owners formed a group called "Pro Tell," named after national hero William Tell.
In 1983, the Federal Council (the executive cabinet) abandoned the restrictive proposal because "the opposition was too heavy" and suggested that the cantons regulate the matter.
A few months earlier, the Cantonal Council of Freiburg had already enacted such a law by a one-vote margin.
A popular referendum overturned the law the next year, by a 60%-40% vote.
Whatever the effect of Swiss guns abroad, they are not even a trivial crime problem domestically.
Despite all the guns, and virtually EVERY home in that country has guns, the murder rate is a small fraction of the American rate, and is less than the rate in Canada or England, which strictly control guns, or in Japan, which virtually prohibits them.
The gun crime rate in Switzerland is so low that statistics are not even kept!
Go have a read about Switzerland. You will be astounded!
GUNS IN EVERY HOME
A guy named Rick Toledo made this point in an online discussion following the Aurora theater shooting:
"We have 2 rooms: lock 2 men in one room and leave them there for 40 years. Chances are that one will kill the other with his bare hands. Second room fill with all types of guns, lock it up, and after 40 years no gun will attack the other.
Point: GUNS DON'T KILL, PEOPLE DO!"
In a PBS program on gun control, DAVID KOPEL made the point that:
"Gun control laws are dangerous because they don't do a very good job of taking guns away from people who shouldn't have them.
They're more effective at taking guns out of the hands of people who can and should use them, if they chose to, for lawful protection.
Laws tend to change the behavior most effectively of law-abiding people who have some connection to society.
And the problem is, when you discourage those people from owning guns, you're making public safety worse off.
Guns in the hands of good people improve things."
WELL, YOU CAN AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH HILLARY AND THE REST, BUT FIRST, GO SEE IF GUNS IN ANY WAY PROTECT THOSE WHO ARE SCREAMING FOR GUN CONTROL.
YOU CAN BET THE FARM THEY ARE PROTECTED BY SOME SORT OF FIRE POWER.
IF THEY WERE NOT THUS PROTECTED, THEY MIGHT NOT CARE TO BE "PUBLIC FIGURES", "ELECTED OFFICIALS".
ANY MURDERER, INTENT ON KILLING, WHO WANTS A GUN CAN ALWAYS FIND ANOTHER CRIMINAL WILLING TO SELL HIM A GUN.
BARRING THAT, A MURDERER WILL SIMPLY PICK UP A BIG ROCK AND SPLIT A SKULL.
THAT IS THE PROBLEM, NOT GUNS!
IN PARTING, I ASK A FAVOR...
THOSE OF YOU WHO SO DESIRE A BAN ON GUN OWNERSHIP...WHEN YOU COME UNDER ATTACK FROM CRIMINAL ELEMENTS, WHETHER EVERYDAY CRIMINALS OR THE FEDERAL KIND, DO NOT RUN TO THE NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE GUNS FOR HELP.
FACE THOSE WHO COME AT YOU WITH WEAPONS DRAWN AND AIMED WITH ONLY YOUR CONVICTION THAT GUNS ARE EVIL, MUST BE BANNED.
AFTER YOU'RE DISPOSED OF AND THAT ARMED CRIMINAL SHOWS UP AT ARMED NEIGHBOR'S HOME, ARMED NEIGHBOR WILL TAKE CARE OF HIM...AND HELP BURY YOUR REMAINS, PERHAPS.
SADNESS AT YOUR GOING, PEACE TO YOUR ASHES, UNARMED AMERICA.
BANNING ALL GUNS...IT SEEMS SUICIDAL, DOESN'T IT?